I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. (This is in response to Mark). FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. Henry? Screw CTD. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! they should have fought not laid over. We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. We beat back a similar bill last year. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. LAR 8 is a nice weapon. I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. RRA is pretty close to Iowa iirc. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. A corrupt Illinois politician. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. Have you not been following this story? Might see if you can find one to test out. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. Heres a basic synopsis of the original company; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history. Make the bill political kryptonite. That is sooo repetitious! More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. Pick something and follow it. The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. No guilt trip on my hip. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. SA created it). AR Parts. See below for more information. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. Make it a campaign issue NOW. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. Are you aware it was Bill Ruger who testified before Congress that nobody needs more than 10 rounds? Theyre both stuck now. Then beg for forgiveness. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. This says a lot about the people running the company. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. This attention to accuracy is especially evident in Rock Rivers new model, the Advanced Tactical Hunter V2 (ATH V2). These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Rock solid performer. Current employees would be welcone to come along, otherwise there are many good and talented Americans looking for work. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. Larson first said Rock River Arms had broken ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association which is only a four member board. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. This is a digital day/night scope. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State When no one else had any left. In the world of .308 Win. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! Last Updated. After Bill Ruger died, Ruger also dramatically changed direction. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. Its a FACT that those brands are twice the price as Ruger. We do not need traitors in our midst. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. This story is libel. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. When the Maryland Leftistlature passed the odious Gun Safety Act of 2013, making it illegal to purchase many of the firearms made by the venerable Beretta concern, they responded by building their new facility in Tennessee, giving Maryland a stalwart raised middle finger and taking a considerable amount of tax revenue with them.. Ive not the least doubt that the rest of Beretta will eventually follow. Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. Could be paperweights. But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). You write as though weve been asleep. How does what a lobbying group receives from a company 3 years ago translate to what the lobbying group does in the present? Im not ordering anything Springfield. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Your Price: $744.13. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. That will never happen now. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. It is the fault of the people in Illinois. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. Well, now. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Glad I happened upon this article. I hear you on that Ruger. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. They ignored it. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. The licensing fee? I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. Cancelled orders? You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. They also make an Original Henry Rifle. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? So, buying 5 and selling 4 is the limit. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Such a thing exists. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. thats the one ive just stopped considering. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. Maybe then you can explain it to the pussy who wrote this article. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. Done. No other IL manufacturers donated, not Armalite, not DSA, nada. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. There should be a hall of shame for betrayals (and later repentances) by gun companies. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. Never, ever. They have no ethics. Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. It may not even pass the House. Fight it. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. 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