And they both look down at the worst ownership, the NHLs Ottawa Senators . lol! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. If they are taxed as a partnership, partners can only get distributions not paychecks., and those have to be in proportion to their partnership interests. He wasnt even here 4 years and was one of the faces of the franchised. He initially wanted to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers or New York Mets. It also alleges breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty and constructive fraud and asks for a declaratory judgment against Sternberg and Rays Baseball Club. In the meantime you can be an insurrectionist and treasonous and get away with it in America and we have people dying and less people having kids because they cant afford the medical bills. Montreal didnt work. The Rays rank among the least valuable MLB teams, with an estimated valuation of $1.1 billion according to Forbes calculations. (The furthest the Jaguars have made it is the AFC Championship game, done three times: 1996, 1999 and 2017). An easier path to the playoffs means nothing once youre in the playoffs and that same fairer playing field works for the other teams in the division as well. The Milwaukee Bucks are trying to rediscover corner magic and weaponize the three-point shot in their offense. Manfred needs to be faster with these situations. And it wasnt until March 2022 that the partners, after reviewing long-sought financial audits, say they realized their rights within Rays Baseball Club had been curtailed, giving them no revenues from baseball-related operations, no cash flow, and no responsibilities of the management of the Rays team and franchise.. And had been for a while. Im fine with Nashville but please come up with a better name than Stars.. Current value: $2.9 billion (Source: statista.com). Value of team based on current stadium deal (unless new stadium is pending) without deduction for debt. oh, you mean the pastors spreading disease around? And if they dont build one,Nashville will. Thats your opinion. The lawsuit outlines a series of acquisitions of limited partner interests from 2007 to 2018 giving an additional ownership stake to Sternberg. ive been to the trop and here are my biggest complaints about it, one its hard to get to there is only 1 highway in or out and iirc a side street to get to the stadium. The suit was filed in May by five limited partners--Robert Kleinert, Gary Markel, Stephen M. Waters and a trust in his name, and the MacDougald Family Limited Partnership--who together own about 9.6 percent of the team. A group of limited partners owns 37 percent, and the estate of the late Vincent Naimoli, the teams first owner, owns 15 percent. Thats a screwed up country, whose policies are preventing the Blue Jays from playing at home. I thought we had all moved past dragging every single discussion into the COVID pit. Senior Director, Security and Stadium Operations. I can easily name 3 clubs I would really like the MLB to investigate and strip the owners of their rights to the club. In reality thats a HUGE advantage, one that every other GM in the sport would love to have. Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court Judge Thomas Ramsberger granted a motion from five minority ownership groups asking him to be disqualified. The Lightning also faced possible relocation. Rays were fearless on the bases in 2022. Net of stadium revenues used for debt payments. That Calvin Johnson story a few years back drove the nail in the decaying coffin of Lions ownership for me. The best insights from the ultimate insiders, 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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By 2020, he had increased his stake to 85 percent by buying other general partnership stakes, including those held by the family of former owner Vince Naimoli, making him both managing partner and sole general partner. All-Time Owners. He has never invested here. You see the results of his efforts everywhere, including here. man, if only i had sky daddy in my life, id be as insane as you. Baseball wont die if people enjoy again. Court documents show that the minority owners are suing the General and Managing Partner of Tampa Bay Rays Baseball, LTD, Stuart Sternberg, Rays Baseball Club, LLC, and Tampa Bay. @theodore: Rob will get right on it as soon as he settles the MASN dispute between the Nationals and Peter Angelos. Howd you do it? that tell people what to do with their own bodies (besides pregnant women, of course) are tyranny, right? After a very successful career at the firm, Vinik left to start his own hedge fund, Vinik Asset Management. There is technically another way, called a guaranteed payment, but that would have to be in the partnership documents. Hopefully they can get a new stadium in Tampa. The suit is deceptive and inflammatory and is fraught with error and falsehood. 2023 Forbes Media LLC. I think the Braves location is horrible in baseball, and thats right by the convergence of major highways. @stymeedone Ha! Stu Sternberg, owner, Tampa Bay Rays, speaking to reporters in January. Are we really going to halt the growth of baseball around the world because of a once in a lifetime pandemic? You think he cares? Its paying off for us right now, but its also costing taxpayers like you and me billions of dollars every year as Medicare and Medicaid overpay for prescriptions. Problem solved! The suit is seeking . But hey lets just yell back and forth about how high the tax rate should be instead of giving more of a damn about how that tax money is actually being spent and why. @basquiat From MLBs point of view, it is basically settled. But hes killing the sport. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Rays bridge eras through new Hall of Fame, Drafted Trop stadium agreement shows citys strategy. Hopefully the catwalks at Tropicana Field dont interfere with this conflict. (https://www.theringer.com/2019/10/8/20904509/eugene-melnyk-ottawa-senators-worst-sports-owner-in-north-america). UPDATED 12:47 PM ET May. Their suit only seeks to remove Sternberg as general partner, not majority partner. It seems much was lost in your translation. tv: Bally Sports FL, Bally Sun Sports; radio: WDAE 95.3 FM & 620 AM, A judge who was slated to oversee a legal dispute between majority and minority owners of the Tampa Bay Rays has stepped down from the case last August over past ties to the team, including a stint as a minor league general manager. The minority shareholders allege hes instead used his authority to decline to acquire potentially advantageous interests for the partnership as a whole, only to then personally acquire those interests and increase his own stake in the partnership. That was Tom McCloskey, a Philadelphiaconstruction magnate, who could not come to terms with the NFL over payment for the franchise and was replaced by Culverhouse. Both Bryan and Joel have been involved with the teams operations since their father took over in 1995. F everyone else as long as you get yours-regardless of honor, laws or morals, huh? The lawsuit asks that a receiver be appointed to determine how much money or damages is owed to the partners in Tampa Bay Rays Baseball. The Tampa Bay Timesreport notes that Sternberg had previously told the publication that his conversations about a potential sale to Bronfman did not begin until about 2017. Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. The final 37 percent went to a group of limited investors, who, at the time, included Robert Basham, co-founder of Outback Steakhouse. A group of minority owners of the Tampa Bay Rays have filed a lawsuit against principal owner Stuart Sternberg. In March, a judge ruled that part of that lawsuit, seeking to oust Sternberg as a general partner, can proceed in court, with the rest going to arbitration. Wish he would just leave as central/west Florida is a top 3 growth market and already a top 12 TV market. According to the suit, Sternberg transferred control of the team to Rays Baseball Club at the start of 2020, unbeknownst to the other partners, who say they didnt find out about it for more than a year. @joe Brady, when your the managing partner of an investment group your top interests are the partnership. Jeter owns a 4 percent. At least Loria attempted to spend on payroll several times. Maybe they work out a deal to show clips from The Facts of Life between innings. Responsible policy in the face of a once-in-a-lifetime crisis that has killed millions worldwide apparently is less important than where the Blue Jays play. Just move to MTL play in the dome until the new stadium is built. However, Stan Kroenke, the minority shareholder of the Rams, ultimately exercised a clause in his ownership agreement to match any proposed bid. @advplee Yea there are no issues with unwarranted arrests and other infringements on freedom in the US, got it. Ive asked this half jokingly and thus half seriously. Taxpayers paid 62% of costs. If there are requirements that the majority owner works for the benefit of all the partners, that changes everything. The problem is not that hes a smart businessman who has played the system to his advantage. He will sell off before it happens thsts what guys like this do. Unsurprisingly, the City of St. Petersburg stated a few months later they would not grant the organization permission to embark on that concept. When it comes to college basketball, Rick Pitino has seen and done about everything there is to see and do. That organization was stripped of its ownership and moved because of it. if only america did the same, at least 200k people would still be alive. Please check the opt-in box to acknowledge that you would like to subscribe. Laws by the govt. They were actually near the top in attendance in the early 80s then were middle-ish of the pack until the mid-90s. The US also generally has a huge advantage in access to pharmaceuticals because of the political and financial relationship we have with the Pharma industry. Everyone might win *except* St. Petersburg, who would be left with a large empty circus tent/stadium. Required fields are marked *. Its worth remembering the filing of a complaint marks one of the earliest stages in litigation. That whole situation probably doesnt get resolved until Peter Angelos dies, the Angelos family sells the team, or both. The nasty legal battle between Tampa Bay Rays principal owner Stuart Sternberg and a group of the baseball team's limited partners has become public in recent days. The Rays have been a great investment for Sternberg. Oh, I know theres a few here, but only a few. He is the principal shareholder of the ownership group that owns the Tampa Bay Rays and acts as the team's Managing General Partner since November 2005. Why would I want to give that scumbag my money. In 1978, he started Bumper Works, which made car bumpers for customized pickup trucks and body shop repairs. US policies pretty much singlehandedly prop up the huge profits in the pharmaceutical industry with our strong patent protection. Sounds like the remaining minority owners do not agree with what Sternberg wants to do & now that his ownership stake is at 85% they are seeing the writing on the wall on their remaining 15% share. However, Culverhouse was not the person originally awarded the franchise in 1974. About the sale: With a losing record for the franchise and lack of identity or brand recognition, Schaffel and Cunningham decided to sell their interest in the team. Then, Vinik swooped in to purchase the franchise and cement itsplace in Tampa Bay. It was right there in front of your eyes the whole time! no thanks, I prefer my freedoms. That seems like a massive overreaction lol. He knows the Rays will eventually have a new park in Tampa or a new city to call home. Your email address will not be published. The minority owners who filed the suit are Robert Kleinert, Gary Markel, Stephen M. Waters and a trust bearing his name, and the MacDougald Family Limited Partnership, LLLP. The Tampa Bay Rays have agreed to a three-year, $40-million contract with right-hander Zach Eflin, the largest contract ever given to a free agent by the franchise. He is quite competent. Plaintiffs concerns were further justified when they discovered that Sternberg has been secretly negotiating to sell an interest in the franchise and club to a Canadian businessman named Stephan Bronfman and his Montreal Baseball Group, the lawsuit said. Dont forget the $61 milliion in renovations for Amelie that the county agreed to pay for in 2018. 11. 7. The Rays, for their part, have issued a statement on the matter: We are disappointed that a handful of our limited partners have filed suit. But hes been ineffective in building a brand, and has essentially destroyed what was a promising market. They have more playoff wins in this time than the Blue Jays and Orioles. Hmmm, sounds like the Montreal Expos may be back in 2028. Insultingly, based on information and belief, these secret negotiations have been going on since the spring of 2014.. As youre a Rays fan, I hope youre rewarded better in the coming seasons. Lol people love shoehorning their hate of the radical left into any conversation. They have ok TV ratings, but a high percentage are transplants watching their team play the Rays. Championships: 2 (2002 against the Oakland Raiders and 2020 against the Kansas City Chiefs), Owner: Sunrise Sports and Entertainment (Vincent Viola, chairman). About the owners: Sherman made his money after co-founding Private Capital Management, based in Naples, in 1985. Senior Director, Building Operations. ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) The Tampa Bay Rays say the latest lawsuit filed by a group of limited partners who accuse Stuart Sternberg of wrongfully taking control of the team is a. Local revenues divided by metro population with populations in two-team markets divided in half. Of most interest to Rays fans is likely their assertion that Sternberg has been secretly negotiating to sell an interest in the Franchise and Club to a Canadian businessman named Stephen Bronfman and his Montreal Baseball Group. The complaint alleges that Sternberg has been in clandestine discussions with Bronfman since the Spring of 2014.. 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Sternberg had sought to have the case settled through arbitration, rather than a jury trial. These allegations along with an obvious desire to relocate along with the year in and year out Moneyball tactics all because hes too cheap just get old. NBA legend Michael Jordan also owns a small stake, for which he paid about $5 million. Playoff wins count twice as much as regular season wins. The strike really hurt them, as did ownership and their stadium situation. Every team has a legion of fans who comment, but Rays fans are mostly absent. The team was flirting with bankruptcy and things were made worse by the global recession. Of course, no sane prospective owner would buy in at this point, with contentious labor negotiations fast approaching, so things are on hold there. Kick governments out of healthcare, give money (if possible) to private enterprises and countries are far better off. 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SHOCKED. All three lawsuits list as a defendant Rays Baseball Club LLC, the limited liability company managed by Sternberg that legally owns the franchise. You hit the nail on the head in terms of our Pharma industry and how our overpayments have built an industry the world needs. But you keep talking about how America is so much better. On Nov. 29, 2011, Khan agreed to purchase the Jacksonville Jaguars from Wayne Weaver and his ownership group. Let alone he was warned and did it anyway. Lets someone else do it for you.. You have to give credit to the Rays coaching staff for getting the most out of the ever changing players.. Well said, and STU-pid thinks he can threaten Tampa tax payers with moving the team. For the second time in a year, a group of minority Tampa Bay Rays owners have sued companies held by principal owner Stuart Sternberg, alleging they withheld documents key to a review of the team's finances. ================================================================== Joel-I honestly believe Sternberg doesnt care about the Rays as a sports franchise. But the latest one puts that company front and center. That original ownership group paid out $32.5 million in expansion fees in 1988 to bring the team to Miami. The lawsuit was filed by five limited partners who own a combined 9.6 percent of the team: Robert Kleinert, Gary Markel, the MacDougald Family Limited Partnership, Stephen M. Waters and a. About the sale: Sternberg purchased 48 percent of the team for roughly $65 million in 2004. i would keep Sounds and consider a callback name for Cleveland instead. To us, it is simply a hobby and we are more than ready to spend the owners money for them on what we perceive as a way to win games. I guess you have to remain quarantined and masked when your government-run health sector cant secure and administer sufficient vaccines. When DeVos died in 2018, his four children became the largest stakeholders in the franchise, with Dan DeVos as chairman. Lease goes through 2027, so I REALLY hope Canada travel bans arent a thing by then. We are finally seeing progress on the As but it took a long time. Log in Register, 2022-23 Top 50 MLB Free Agents With Predictions, https://web.archive.org/web/20130908013405/https://law.marquette.edu/images/sports/nfl22.pdf, https://web.archive.org/web/20120824051451/http://law.marquette.edu/images/sports/nhl22.pdf, https://www.theringer.com/2019/10/8/20904509/eugene-melnyk-ottawa-senators-worst-sports-owner-in-north-america. And make similar moves like the Montreal decision to some of these owners and organizations. 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